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When replying to a private note email notification, response goes to the client via a public note (Warning: halitosis)

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  • April 25, 2013
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Scenario;


#1 Client emails support, a freshdesk ticket gets created.

#2 AgentBob takes new ticket

#3 AgentBon adds private note stating that client suffers from chronic halitosis and adds AgentSmith to the notification. 

#4 AgentSmith gets an email notification informing him that client has chronic halitosis.

#5 AgentSmith does not varnish his opinion, and replies to email stating that client has poor personal hygiene habits.

#6 FreshDesk cheerfully adds a public note to the ticket and sends a notification that a new note has been added to her ticket.

#7 Client is reminded of her chronic halitosis, and becomes offended by AgentSmiths opinion of her personal hygiene. 

#8 Client spends fours hours brushing teeth, then cancels service with AgentBob. AgentSmith takes his unvarnished opinion to the job center.


Is there a way to make sure replies to 'Private Notes' stay Private?

Is there a way to disable 'Public Notes' entirely?


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  • Community Debut
  • April 25, 2013
Another annoying thing with notes is that every person being notified is added into the To list for all outgoing emails. So that when one of them subsequently hits "reply to all" all 10 people in the list get duplicate e-mails, one directly from the note originator and one via the support system. This makes no sense whatsoever. There should be an option to hide those emails in the BCC list, so all follow-up emails would go through the support system always, and not directly between agents.

 


annapoorna.venketaraman
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Hey Jev,


Thank you for writing to us in our Forums and for actually taking the time out to clearly explain the scenario. 


So here the problem is AgentBon adds a private note for AgentSmith and AgentSmith replies to the email notification he receives. Whenever an agent replies to any notification email, his reply gets added as a Public note in the ticket. 

This is how the system has been designed. 

So it is expected that the agent logs into the portal and then replies if he wants to keep things private. 


Whenever you add a note in a ticket from within the portal, it is a Private note by default and only if you unlock it, it gets public visibility. 


Hope I have made this clear for you, Jev. Do write back to me if you have further queries.


Thanks,

Anna




annapoorna.venketaraman
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Hey Sobomax,


Can you please elaborate a bit more on the issue you are facing? How are you trying to add a note and notify people? 


Please fill me in with more clarity so that I can help you out better.


Thanks,

Annapoorna 


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  • August 20, 2013

We use Forward to send a ticket to internal teams for discussion/resolution. We use Reply to respond to the customer. We've faced the problem above too, where:

1. A client sends us an email (which raises in ticket in Freshdesk)

2. Agent forwards the ticket to another team to get issue resolved

3. Most of the time, when the person replies to the forwarded ticket, it gets added as a private note. the agent then replies to the client, but the internal discussion is not included in the email thread. This works perfectly for us. 

4. However, sometimes (I think when a person replies all to a forwarded ticket or similar scenario), the reply to the forwarded ticket gets added as a public note. We're not sure exactly when this happens, but agents have to keep a very careful eye out for this. This is the case similar to the issue mentioned by Jev.


The best way to solve this would be: if a public note is added, give option to turn it into a private note. 



  • Contributor
  • August 20, 2013

Hi


I can suggest a small option of using Email commands with Action:note option in the commands, so that AGENT reply stays as Private Note, instead of going as Public Note.


I know its difficult to remember this each and everytime, but we will try to improve this section and Email commands can help, for the time being.


regards
Vijay


  • Contributor
  • March 25, 2014

Please consider making a change to this behavior.  The consequences of forgetting are potential harmful.



  • Community Debut
  • March 28, 2014

It would be great if replies to private notes via email either defaulted to private, or if we could change this behavior via a setting. 


Replies to something marked as "Private" should also be Private, not Public. 


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  • March 31, 2014

+1 vote from me to make notes private by default when other teams reply by email to a forwarded private note.


  • Contributor
  • April 1, 2014

+1 for both private replies remaining private 

+1 for only using BCC field for all email addresses apart from the requester.


  • Contributor
  • April 3, 2014

Please like or vote for this idea.


Just wondering if it's possible, is anyone using a workaround or a freshplug to manage this somehow? 

 


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  • May 22, 2014

I agree, there should be an option to change the default behavior regarding replies to forwards from the admin panel.


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  • November 13, 2014
Has there been any work to address this?  I would think that the safer route would be to make email responses from an Agent private by default if the system cannot determine whether the email was in reply to something public or private accurately.  Making a slip in this area has potentially very damaging consequences to client relations.

 

This has also been requested under https://support.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/13034 so you may want to vote for that feature request as well


  • Contributor
  • November 13, 2014
This is still greatly needed

 


  • Contributor
  • November 24, 2014

I'd agree that this is something that seems as though it should be pretty straight forward.  The fact is that an internal person replying back to an internal email request should not be a public comment out to the customer by default.  If you have multiple back and forth email discussions from a support individual to, for example, a developer or SME, you don't want that conversation threaded to the customer. You want to make sure that your support team can aggregate the discussion into something that's logical, concise and clear for the customer without confusing the issue significantly.


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  • March 11, 2015

I would like all e-mail input to become private notes (by default or as an option), so output is only sent to the customer  when approved by a logged-in user, just as private notes created from the application do.


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  • March 11, 2015
Please implement.   This is a big headache for us, and we get hit with complains from customers, and management.

 


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  • April 27, 2015
+1 on this feature. Email reply ->private note

 


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  • June 17, 2015
Is this going to be looked into? At least set a scenario where your company emails in = private note.

 


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  • June 30, 2015

How do I disable public notes. My customers are responding as a public note but it is getting missed as the ticket does not show 'Customer Responded'


  • Contributor
  • June 30, 2015

This is a big deal.  It's easy for me to say that we're always 100% open and transparent with our customers (as we are) so even if this did happen it wouldn't matter, but I can imagine that some organisations have to be very guarded about what they say to their customers and this is very problematic for them.


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  • June 30, 2015
Hi everyone - sorry, but I disagree that is something to "fix".  We are relatively new to FreshService/FreshDesk and the system is working great for us!  All of our agents are logged in to FreshService, so when we receive a private note, we go to the ticket and add another private note (as a 'reply').  At least it's my understanding of the way things work - if FreshService receives an 'external' email, it's either added to the ticket ("public note") or it creates a new ticket.

Am I missing something?

 


  • Contributor
  • June 30, 2015

In your case it is fine if all agents are forced to login. However, if anyone in your company with a (@yourdomain.com) email address, replies to any email (like a notification, or agent assigned email) then that gets pushed to the customer.




  • Contributor
  • June 30, 2015

This relies a lot on educating the entire company to not do something. It is difficult to force managers, and other departments to remember not to reply to an email (which is usually support@company.com), and the consequence of this mistake are huge, and not correctable.


Currently If someone adds a private note and chooses to inform other agents, it then emails them the content of that note.


In my opinion, this should be changed and I can think of 2 possible ways for FD to "fix" this / stop this happening...


Option 1. the content of the private note is NOT emailed, just an alert informing the intended recipients that there is a private note could be emailed.

In this case, the recipient agents have to log in to view the private note and IF one of them replies to the email, no sensitive information is passed to the customer.

This option is likely easier to implement but less "slick" / seamless - Maybe this could be a quick workaround fix while the clever bods consider how to implement Option 2?


Option 2. the content of the private note is emailed but it stays private (with the FD agent group or intended recipients) from that point

If this is the case (which it currently is) then replies to private notes should NOT be sent to the customer - there needs to be a mechanism that stops that happening and replies should be also private and have the same scope as the original note (i.e. the list of agents).


Either way, the crux of the matter is, if you add a private note, it should stay private between those in the group that are handling the ticket.


Further opinions welcomed.


Cheers

Chris


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  • July 1, 2015
I agree with Chris Phillips - if an agent posts a private note and includes another agent, they should receive a *notification* and link - not the actual contents of the private note.

Darren - we don't *force* our agents to log in.  I believe that's how the system is designed.  We have a limited number of agents (compared to many clients), so we correspond with private notes within FreshService, even though it triggers emails to us.  We don't need to train our entire company to do or not do anything - they use email as usual.  It IS a matter of training, in general, to have people understand "reply" vs "reply all", for example.  There are many ways to get into trouble with email, yes??!  The point is, we only have to train our agents to use the system to avoid this problem of private notes becoming public.

Could it be better?  Of course - like Chris said, email *notifications*, not contents.